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Date: Fri 18 Sep 87 09:25:20-EDT
From: Jeff Shulman <SHULMAN@SDR>
Subject: Usenet Mac Digest V3 #69

Usenet Mac Digest     Thursday, September 17, 1987   Volume 3 : Issue 69

Today's Topics:
     defaults in PageSetup
     Hypercard and DAs
     Re: Ukrainian version of the Cyrillic Alphabet
     Request for US Map
     Video memory on Mac II
     Re: MPW C 2.0 interfaces into ColorQuickDraw
     Re: A Surefire Way to Become Rich (using Hypercard)
     Mac II is acting flakey! Ideas?
     Set Startup
     Re: Mac II is acting flakey! Ideas?
     Re: Digitize vs Scan?
     Re: Mac II is acting flakey! Ideas?
     Replacing system fonts
     Nova (Or Any) Hard Drives
     Wanted: good deal on Radius FPD
     Re: Hypercard and DAs
     ResEdit RSSC ressources
     Re: Ticking Mac
     Re: Video memory on Mac II
     Re: Replacing system fonts
     Re: Software Search
     Old Fonts and New Computers
     Princeton Font and FDA Mover 3.5
     Re: MPW C 2.0 interfaces into ColorQuickDraw
     Re: Replacing system fonts
     Re: Nova (Or Any) Hard Drives
     Are you using TEX anymore?
     Dialog question

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From: [e-mail] (Kees Huyser)
Subject: defaults in PageSetup
Date: 9 Sep 87 16:21:50 GMT
Organization: National Institute for Nuclear Physics; Netherlands

I'm stuck with a relatively small problem, and am looking for a
solution.

How do I change the default papersize in pagesetup. It comes default on
US Letter, but since the rest of the world (including me) uses A4 Letter
I would like that to be the default.

*small flame on* Why is there no PageSetup-Setup so you can change any
default to the one you would like it to be. Even for the Mac users in
the US I can imagine there are some who would like the default to be
f.i. US Legal or such. I'd rather not have to change from US Letter to
A4 Letter *every time* I choose Page Setup! *small flame off; trailing
smoke...*

Can anybody help ?

-- Kees

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From: [e-mail] (GuestRA)
Subject: Hypercard and DAs
Date: 9 Sep 87 14:07:20 GMT
Organization: AT&T, Denver, CO


It appears to me that HC doesn't fully support desk accessories.  When I
fire up a DA, HC doesn't let me put it in the background while I do
something to a card.  I have to close the DA.  I can understand why this
might be since a HC card is pre-defined to be the size of a standard Mac
screen.  But I sure don't like it.  One question is, if I have a larger
screen (like on a Mac II) can I have both DA and HC windows open
simultaneously? Ron


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From: [e-mail] (Henri J. Socha (x6251))
Subject: Re: Ukrainian version of the Cyrillic Alphabet
Date: 8 Sep 87 18:02:57 GMT
Organization: Digital Research, Monterey, CA

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Gordon Goodman) writes:
>I am looking for a Ukrainian version of the cyrillic alphabet for the Mac.
>The font will be printed on an Imagewriter.

>Nosdorolya,
CasadyWare
P.O. Box 223779
Carmel CA 93922
[phone] (US)
[phone] (CA)
[phone] (Information 9-5 Pcific time)
The first two numbers are a 24 HR answering/ordertaking service I think.

If Ukranian is not in Fluent Fonts (Includes Cyrillic) then Fluent Laser
Fonts Number 9 Is said to be Russian, Ukrainian, Bulgarian, Serbian.
(Non-Cyrillic may be unusual key  layout.  My wife said that some keys
were Old Russian (Pre-Revoluionary).

They are Postscript font but come with bitmap fonts that may serve your
purposes.  Time was spent to make bit-mapped nice but only a few sizes
were done.  Full Family fonts included (Bold,Italic, B&I).

I have no connection with CasadyWare except as a friend and the designer
of their laser fonts does the newsletter for the local Club Mac (and
more).
--
UUCP:...!amdahl!drivax!socha                                      WAT Iron'75
"Everything should be made as simple as possible but not simpler."  A. Einstein


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From: [e-mail] (James Larus)
Subject: Request for US Map
Date: 9 Sep 87 17:17:39 GMT

Does anyone have a map of the United States in a form suitable for
editing with MacDraw?

Thanks, /Jim

ARPANet: [e-mail] Usenet:  ...!ucbvax!larus


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From: [e-mail] (Michael S Czeiszperger)
Subject: Video memory on Mac II
Date: 9 Sep 87 14:57:24 GMT
Organization: Mathematical Sciences Computer Lab, The Ohio State University

This probably was discussed previously, but here it goes: I'm trying to
figure out the effects of adding a 24 bit buffer card to our mac II. Is
the memory needed for video  taken from regular virtual memory, or is it
contained on the card?   Since a full screen image at 24 bits would
probably fill up about 2.25 meg, the addition of the higher resolution
board would contain the hidden costs of higher memory requirements.



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From: [e-mail] (Stew Rubenstein)
Subject: Re: MPW C 2.0 interfaces into ColorQuickDraw
Date: 9 Sep 87 23:52:54 GMT
Organization: Aiken Computation Lab Harvard, Cambridge, MA

In article <[e-mail]>
[e-mail] (David Gelphman) writes:
>
>   I have run into problems trying to use the two new Color QuickDraw (WM)
>   calls GetNewCWindow and CopyPix. I recall recently reading that these
>   calls have been eliminated or renamed.

They have indeed been eliminated.  CopyBits will now handle a PixMap as
well as a BitMap, and GetNewWindow creates a color window if there is a
'wctb' resource with the same ID as the WIND resource.

Stew Rubenstein
Cambridge Scientific Computing, Inc.
UUCPnet:    seismo!harvard!rubenstein            CompuServe: 76525,421
Internet:   [e-mail]       MCIMail:    CSC

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From: [e-mail] (Jan Harrington)
Subject: Re: A Surefire Way to Become Rich (using Hypercard)
Date: 9 Sep 87 11:29:02 GMT
Organization: Scholastech, Inc., Waltham, Mass.


This isn't the first idea to come up about computerizing catalogs.  On
CompuServe the people who put out the World Almanac have been sending
out feelers to see how much people would be willing to pay for a
Hypercard version of the almanac.  They seem to have settled on $29.95,
which would include a hard copy.

Seems like a pretty good deal to me!

Jan Harrington, sysop
Scholastech Telecommuications
ihnp4!husc6!amcad!stech!sysop

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From: [e-mail] (Marc Hannah)
Subject: Mac II is acting flakey! Ideas?
Date: 9 Sep 87 21:36:07 GMT
Organization: Stanford University


   After 5-6 hours of consecutive work last night with my Mac II (with
no problems after 2.5 months) I ran into problems booting this morning.
The first time I powered on I did NOT get the Boot Chime and none of the
usual procedure occurred. The screen was lit but nothing happened,
neither the interrupt button nor the reset button (!) nor the 'power'
button in the very back had any effect. Only by using my power strip was
I able to try again. After a couple of power cycling attempts the system
booted normally and seemed to behave ok. I tried a couple more times and
it seemed flakey, including one time where it got pretty far in the boot
process and then a 'click' came from the speaker and then it hung. I
have seen problems with bootup when SCSI devices which were not on at
bootup but only my internal hard drive was connected at boot time and
even one of the times when it was read properly, the system hung.
Obviously it looks like a hardware problem and I'm taking it in for
(warrenty) repairs but I thought I'd post to get feedback and other
people's experience.
David Gelphman
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Scott Snyder)
Subject: Set Startup
Date: 10 Sep 87 01:22:54 GMT
Organization: Cornell Theory Center, Cornell University, Ithaca NY

Hi,
    I've been trying to create a boot disk without a finder.  Everytime
I try to get rid of the finder by setting either an application or a
Minifinder as the startup I have problems. The Mac will start (a happy
Mac) and then spit out the disk. When I put the finder back on or start
from a differnt drive I have no problem.  For some reason the system
wants to see the finder even if  its not using it.
    I must be doing something stupid, or in the wrong order.  Please
help.

                            Scott     [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Mark Day)
Subject: Re: Mac II is acting flakey! Ideas?
Date: 10 Sep 87 04:39:01 GMT
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab

Apple sent out a service alert on 8/27 with regards to an intermittent
problem during the bootup sequence of a Mac II equipped with an internal
20SC.  I don't know if your drive is 20 meg, but if so it may need a new
drive EPROM. Quoting from the Apple Alert: "To locate the drive EPROM on
the hard disk's PCB, look for the only rectangular 28 pin chip.  In
front of the chip (the side facing the 50 pin connector) the location
U12 is printed on the board. Once the chip has been identified, look for
the revision number on the chip's label under the heading 'E-P'.  If the
revision level is 2.6A the chip should be replaced."

The drive EPROM chip is Apple part number 927-0002.  Hope this helps
those folks out there lucky enough to have a Mac II to have problems
with.

Mark
----------
        Mark Day
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BITNET:        [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Peter Merchant)
Subject: Re: Digitize vs Scan?
Date: 9 Sep 87 14:36:24 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <[e-mail]>, H. Moskovitz writes:
> I am getting ready to put down some $$$ toward an image input device. Question
> is, should I go for a scanner (the Thunderscan in particular) or a video
> digitizer.
>
> I would like to hear from folks who have experience with both so that I can get
> an educated opinion as to the pro's and con's of each.

Uh, depends on what you're scanning.

If all of your scanning is stuff from books, magazines, photographs, and
the like, then get Thunderscan (or better).  They give you very good
quality from printed material.  Unfortunately, you're limitted to
pictures.  If you wanted to scan something other than a picture, you
would not be able to do it.

Video scanners give you the flexibility, but at a major cost in quality
of the image.  I used MacVision (and, admittedly, not a good camera) to
try to capture a photograph.  It was very difficult to set up and the
quality of the final scan was not as good as Thunderscan would have
been.  However, I also set up the camera on the roof of a building and
got some good shots of the Long Island Sound with the Throgs Neck Bridge
in the background, something that would be annoying to do with
Thunderscan, as I would have to take a photograph and then scan that.

One curiousity, for those of you who may have tried this with MacVision:
I just recently received a very nice four-head VCR.  The feature of the
four heads is that when I hit Pause, it does not shake and the image is
still very good on the screen.  Anyone know what to expect when I feed
the image to MacVision?  (Just so I know what to expect so I don't get
too disappointed.)
--
"This time it's forever,                 Peter Merchant ([e-mail])
 Love is the answer."


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From: [e-mail] (Christopher Chow)
Subject: Re: Mac II is acting flakey! Ideas?
Date: 10 Sep 87 07:07:02 GMT
Organization: Cornell Theory Center, Cornell University, Ithaca NY


Actually, the Mac II beep on bootup is part of a self-test which the Mac
II does on power-ups.  Supposely, you can tell what's wrong with the
machine by the beep sound it make - the beep sound code was written to
assume that even main memory might not be there!  Does anyone know the
mapping between boot sounds and hardware errors?

Christopher Chow
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From: [e-mail] (Theodore W. Gray)
Subject: Replacing system fonts
Date: 10 Sep 87 04:29:27 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley

Is it possible to replace the standard system fonts (i.e. Chicago 12 and
Geneva 9) with different (much larger) fonts?  I tried playing with
ResEdit and F/DA mover, but nothing seemed to work.  Are these fonts
actually in ROM now?  If so, is it still possible to somehow install a
new font to  replace what's in ROM?
                                                  thanx,
                                                       theo


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From: [e-mail] (Cam Clarke)
Subject: Nova (Or Any) Hard Drives
Date: 10 Sep 87 06:06:12 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge MA


I'm thinking about purchasing a hard drive for my Macintosh Plus, and
cost is my primary consideration.  The best price I've found on a hard
drive is the Nova 30 for $689 from Microtech Peripherals, Inc. Has
anyone bought from this company, seen or heard about their hard  drives,
or know of a better deal?  I want to save money, but I don't want to be
buying a lemon.  I've looked in back issues of MacWorld and MacUser and
only found their ads going back to June of 1987, but their ad indicates
that they've been selling an 800K floppy drive since 1985. Any
information on this hard drive, or on a comparable 30 meg drive would be
appreciated.

This posting is not designed to be a negative comment on Microtech, I'm
just over cautious, and don't know anything about them.  I assume
they're a fine upstanding corporation. I have no connection with
Microtech, or any hard drive company.

                        -Cam Clarke

[e-mail]        [e-mail]
[e-mail]            [e-mail]
...{sesimo, harpo, ihnp4, linus, allegra, ut-sally}!harvard!husc4!clarke

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Wanted: good deal on Radius FPD
Date: 9 Sep 87 20:51:00 GMT

     I'm planning to buy a Radius FPD within the next month or two (for a
   Mac Plus), but was hoping to find a better price than what the local
   computer store quoted.  They will give me 10% off the list price of
   $1995, which means $1795.50.  Since this is more than I paid for the
   Mac Plus a year ago, I am hoping that someone knows of a better deal.
     This is assuming that one can purchase an FPD by mail-order and also
   install it oneself.

     Thanks in advance,

        Mark Sandrock, (sandrock@uiucuxc)


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From: [e-mail] (Jim Kateley)
Subject: Re: Hypercard and DAs
Date: 10 Sep 87 03:53:07 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, USA

No, on a larger screen HC acts the same way.  But you can "trick" HC
into letting you keep DA's open.  Open your DA, then open the message
box or tear off a menu.  Click on the message box or torn-off menu. The
DA will go in the background (sort of).  The only problem with this is
if you have a script that closes the message box and/or tear-off menus,
the DA will come to the front (and probably screw up the script).

Jim Kateley (still no .sig*???)
Disclaimer:  These are all my own thoughts....and sometimes even I wonder

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From: [e-mail] (D. Ranson CNET)
Subject: ResEdit RSSC ressources
Date: 10 Sep 87 07:36:30 GMT

I am looking for infos on writing ressource pickers and editors for
ResEdit (RSSC ressources). Ressource format and routines descriptions
would be fine. I know this info is in MPW Pascal 2.0 (doc and example
files), but APDA has seemingly stopped all shipments of this until a new
master disk is available. Could someone having MPW Pascal 2.0 extract
this info?

   Daniel Ranson
   ...!seismo!mcvax!inria!{crcge1 or cnetlu}!ranson


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From: [e-mail] (Hartong)
Subject: Re: Ticking Mac
Date: 10 Sep 87 08:34:43 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories - Naperville, Illinois

Some time ago I found the same problem. Since my home mac is slightly
different from the standard mac (It has a series stabilized PSU i.s.o. a
concept with flyback transformer) the problem could be heard a bit
better. After some  investigation I found out that there were "dips" in
the 12 volt Power Suply Line. When expirimenting with internal and
external drives,  Standard Sony and 3rd Party Drives the following
conclusion came up: After Reset the power dips occured when a disk drive
(Sony Only) was attached to the Mac, no matter if it was internal or
external. With a 3rd Party drive (don't remember the brand anymore)
these problems did  not  occur. This is because the mac is looking for a
drive to use, and tries to select the internal or external drive, thus
making the Enable line active.

When the drive is running/spinning (Sony drive, further refferenced as
 "the drive") , no dips in the 12 V. line. (because the drive is
selected continiously) When the system has started upp (i.e. system
loaded) the problem still occurs, but may dissapear after some twiddling
with the drive lines (CA0, CA1,  CA2, Select, Enable ). This was done
using a disk-drive diagnostic utility.

The problem lies in the fact that every time the line Enable is
activated a dip on the 12 volt line occurs. It seems that the 12v line
is shortcutted for a very short time (+/- 1 ms). This results in  a high
current floating through the 12 volt line and has impact on the rest of
the mac, wherefrom you hear the "click tik ticking". The frequency you
described is the same as the one I noticed. This points probably to a
faulty hardware dessign (interaction) of the IWM  and Sony disk drives.
Or the Sony drive takes to much current on being enabled.

The ticking and power dips / high current peaks were verified by a
friend who's working as a repairsman with a Apple  dealer, and he found
the same things, but not as sever as with my Mac 'cause the Mac's PSU
can give a higher peak current on their 12 v

The dips seem to have no further impact on a proper working mac. The
extra power dissipation in the PSU due to this dips (high current) is
probably minimal.

Hope this helps (?) a bit.

Piter Jonker, Hilversum,     (A center Town of ) Holland.

ihnp4!ihlpg!hvlpa!pjonker    <--- Use this address when sending reply's
                     The currently used one is a remote login.


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From: [e-mail] (Eric Olson)
Subject: Re: Video memory on Mac II
Date: 10 Sep 87 15:11:46 GMT
Organization: Aiken Computation Lab Harvard, Cambridge, MA

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Michael S Czeiszperger)
writes:
>This probably was discussed previously, but here it goes:
>I'm trying to figure out the effects of adding a 24 bit
>buffer card to our mac II. Is the memory needed for video
>taken from regular virtual memory, or is it contained

Picky point:  No virtual memory on the Mac II (Yet).

>on the card?   Since a full screen image at 24 bits would
>probably fill up about 2.25 meg, the addition of the
>higher resolution board would contain the hidden costs of
>higher memory requirements.

A 24-bit card does not use any more main memory per se, however,
applications that build off-screen PixMaps (images) that match the
current maximum screen depth would consume more memory (assuming the
card is actually set to run in 24-bit mode).  The actual screen memory
is on the card, and not available to anything but the video card.

The only people I know of that are even planning 24-bit video is
SuperMac (makers of the pretty, big, SuperMac 8-bit color display for
the Mac II). I think they're going to do it by using 3 of their 8-bit
cards.

-Eric

Eric K. Olson        [e-mail]        harvard!endor!olson


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From: [e-mail] (Eric Olson)
Subject: Re: Replacing system fonts
Date: 10 Sep 87 15:35:27 GMT
Organization: Aiken Computation Lab Harvard, Cambridge, MA

Yes, they're in ROM.  To stomp any ROM resource, you have to open up the
ROv# (ROM Overlay list) resource with the ID for your machine (same as
the ID's for PTCH resources: 117=Mac+, 630=SE, 376=Mac II [There are no
resources in the 64K ROM, thus, no ROv# ID=105]).  There you play the
Type and ID of the resource you want to read from the System File
instead of ROM.

-Eric

Eric K. Olson        [e-mail]        harvard!endor!olson

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From: [e-mail] (Carl R Daudt)
Subject: Re: Software Search
Date: 10 Sep 87 15:05:08 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos Natl Lab, Los Alamos, N.M.

Just a warning about interfacing an equation-making desk accessory with
a drawing program.  My own use of the Mac has been largely for that
purpose, and I have found that many desk accessories and applications do
not interface with CRICKET DRAW--including the desk accessory Mac Eqn.
Cricket Draw does strange things with stuff that comes from the
clipboard, for example, it does not paste most of the standard graphics
included with the default scrapbook.  It does not paste items from
Mac3D.  It copies, but mangles text from MS Word 3.  Hopefully their
next release will correct these problems.

I highly recommend that you verify that whatever drawing, equation-
making and word processing programs you decide to purchase are
compatible before spending the $$.


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From: [e-mail] (Brian H. Powell)
Subject: Old Fonts and New Computers
Date: 10 Sep 87 16:41:20 GMT
Organization: U. Texas CS Dept., Austin, Texas


     Back in late 1984 and early 1985, when the most technical thing you
could do on a Mac was edit fonts, I designed a German script font called
Wartburg. At the time, I used Apple's Font Editor.
     That font doesn't work on this Mac-SE that I'm using now.  I
double-click on the font file (or start Font/DA mover 3.5 and open the
font file), but the font doesn't appear.  The file is opened, but it
appears empty.
     I tried creating a FOND, even to the extent of figuring out those
fixed-point widths and heights.  It still doesn't work.  I dumped the
FONT out in hex and looked at the first few bytes.  They look fine.
     Fontastic doesn't deal with it, but I think that's because I
haven't shelled out the money to buy Fontastic-Plus.  FontDisplay 5.0
(demo version) displays it fine, except for one character which seems to
want to kern an awful lot.  I don't use ResEdit, because it freaks my
computer when I try to edit fonts.

     Is there something I need to do to get it to be recognized?  I'd
rather not buy the upgrade to Fontastic-Plus, and I'd rather not dump
the font out in hex and decode the whole thing.
     Would it help if I went back to an older Font/DA Mover?  I'll
probably try to do some work with it under the older systems to see if
that helps.  Any suggestions, assuming I get it to work, on updating the
FONT/FOND for newer systems?

     Thanks.

Brian H. Powell
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Meiss)
Subject: Princeton Font and FDA Mover 3.5
Date: 10 Sep 87 16:17:58 GMT
Organization: UTexas Computation Center, Austin, Texas

I asked this question once before, but got no answers. Perhaps somebody
now knows:
    The Font/DA Movers 3.2 and later do not recognize Princeton Font. This
font, #13, has a FOND resource which looks okay to me (I compared it to
Geneva's, and couldn't see any problems), and its got 4 sizes as FONT
resources.
    KeyCaps, Word and MacWrite all recognize it. But when you open FDA
mover it looks like its not there! What gives?
    I tried renumbering the FOND and FONT's to see if there was something
unlucky about 13, but had no luck! Anybody else have some suggestions?

                    Thanks
                    Jim Meiss
                    [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Marc Hannah)
Subject: Re: MPW C 2.0 interfaces into ColorQuickDraw
Date: 10 Sep 87 17:50:41 GMT
Organization: Stanford University

    Will the REAL Inside Mac Volume V please stand up. Golly it is tough
sometimes. The CopyBits <-> CopyPix change I could believe and figured
it out. The use of GetNewWindow makes sense so you can color a window
without making changes to the source code. What really threw me off
however is: 1. The LSC, LSP, and the MPW Assembler interfaces all have a
GetNewCWindow
   call or trap. 2. Compiling the code with GetNewWindow and Fediting
the GetNewWindow
   opcode to GetNewCWindow worked fine.

>From this I gather that the already existing Rom code will not be supported
on direct call.  Thanks to those who replied on this.
David Gelphman
 [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Adam B Rosen)
Subject: Re: Replacing system fonts
Date: 10 Sep 87 21:01:18 GMT
Organization: MIT Media Lab, Cambridge MA

I have a Public Domain program called Layout which does a bit of what
you want. It's purpose is to change the default font which Finder uses
to whatever font and point size you wish (of those installed in the
System file, of course). Along with doing this it also allows you to
change the default spacing for Icon and Small Icon views (horizontally
and vertically), change the spacing and format for text views, change
the size and location of a new window, etc.. Very useful program; I'm
currently using Monaco 9pt instead of Geneva, since I find it easier to
read.  Using too big a font causes problems with lack of space on the
screen.  As it is if you change the attributes of your Finder, you must
re-clean-up all your windows so as to get the spacing correct.  Layout
will allow you to revert to the normal Finder settings at any time.

This won't change the Chicago font, nor will it help in programs which
use Chicago or Geneva, but it does help on the desktop.  Let me know if
you're  interested and I'll give you more info.

Adam B. Rosen


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From: [e-mail] (Ron Beloin)
Subject: Re: Nova (Or Any) Hard Drives
Date: 10 Sep 87 21:06:22 GMT
Organization: Cornell Theory Center, Cornell University, Ithaca NY

I just picked up a 20M SCSI drive from MacConnection for $569, including
cable, and I'm quite happy with it. Although you mentioned 30M, I'd
thought I'd pass this on anyway. It is made by Rodime, sits under the
mac, and doesn't have a fan. In fact, it looks just like the pictures of
the Nova20 from microtech, sans logo. It is as quiet as my Dataframe and
disktimer II results as virtually identical to the dataframe 20 (non-
XP). It is larger, but much lighter, than the dataframe. Daisy chaining
was no problem. Drawbacks: heat production under mac may cause the mac
to run warmer than it would; changing address requires fiddling with
jumpers inside. But, the price is right. Warranty is 120 days, and I
probably don't need to mention that MacConnection has a great
reputation.
--ron.
 Ron Beloin, Ecosystems Research Center, Corson Hall, Cornell, Ithaca,NY 14853
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From: [e-mail] (Jon W. Backstrom)
Subject: Are you using TEX anymore?
Date: 10 Sep 87 21:51:52 GMT
Organization: Indiana University CSCI, Bloomington

Is anyone out there a converted TEX user?  I'm looking for information
about the suitability of using the Mac to produce complicated,
math-intensive documents...

I am especially interested in hearing from users of 'Expressionist' and
knowing how it compares with the use of TEX for creating mathematical
expressions.  Has anyone had any problems integrating 'Expressionist'
files with text from another word processor?  Anyone ever used it with
Pagemaker or Ready-Set-Go?

Thanks for any and all information...


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From: gpollice@eagle_snax.UUCP ( Sun ECD Software)
Subject: Dialog question
Date: 10 Sep 87 20:15:22 GMT

I am writing an application where I have a list of strings which I want
to display and then have the user select one.  I would like to use the
type of dialog which comes up with the standard file open.  I know that
some prpgrams use this type of dialog for other than opening files.  The
problem is that I don't know if there is a resource available to
implement it, either completely or partially, or whether I have to roll
my own.

Any hints, code, or pointers will be appreciated.

    -- Gary ZZ

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